The former CG of ATEC, Roger A. Nadeau, wanted evidence to prove the Army's three-in one gun oil called CLP was defective. CLP was created in 1979 for jungle environments and was Milspec'd to preform three functions, Clean, Lubricate and Preserve out of the same 1/2 ounce bottle. This way, the warfighter would only have to carry one bottle, instead of two.
It still troubles me that no civilians in the Army will admit that CLP's 149F minimum Flashpoint is to low because of combustibility and vapors. On a hot day in theater, the ambient temperatures can reach 120F and the gun-metal's surface temperatures can exceed the CLP's 149F Flashpoint. Now consider, that same weapons is being fired -- sustained rates or not, and the gun-metals temperatures now are double of that of CLP's Flashpoint.
Now you have the former ATEC-GG Roger A. Nadeau telling his Soldiers to:
“Even if the manual says you should clean your weapon twice a day, if you’ve got time, clean it four times a day, if you’ve got more time, clean it eight times a day because the one time you didn’t clean it may be the time it jams".
Weapons continue to unnecessarily jam due to the use of CLP. When weapons jam, bad guys get way, only to come back and plant bombs. Or, they just shoot you since your gun does not work. I am amazed by the cowards in the USG that turn their heads to a defective Milspec that is responbsible for dead, captured and injured American Troops. Instead of blaming the CLP lubricant, the same Milspec has been upgraded over 18 times, and continues to have the 149F Flashpoint.
If the USG used different technology like commercial off-the-self technology (COTS) like you would buy at Radio Shack, DLA, AMC and the countless research/base facilities would be shuttered if they were "MEANS TESTED" Example: The USG has paid John Smith $2,000,000. in salaries over the past twenty years working at laboratories, test facility and the like to place needed technology in the hands of the warfighter. For the majority of both wars, the "Picatinny Rail" was the only new product fielded to any degree. The gucci gear and the like never make it out to troops in the field. The USG has thousands and thousands of folks managing products for the troops, unfortunetly, those managed products rarely reach the troops in need.
THE USG SHOULD NOT BE IN THE BUSINESS OF INVENTING-WHAREHOUSING-SHIPPING GENERAL ITEAMS THAT CAN BE PURCHASED BY OUR SERVICE MEMBERS ONLINE.
THE USG SHOULD NOT BE IN THE BUSINESS OF INVENTING-WHAREHOUSING-SHIPPING GENERAL ITEAMS THAT CAN BE PURCHASED BY OUR SERVICE MEMBERS ONLINE.
Billions can be saved monthy by allowing COTS items to be purchased online by our military personel. The USG should not manage, wharehouse, distribute and the like, products that can be shipped by our own USPS and other trusted carriers. This way, and with competition, defective technology dries up, due to no demand and the best products are used . Also,the private sector will reap the benefits of inventing, wharehousing and delivering products directly to the ones that need it.
The USG can save Billions monthly by allowing full and open competition for all off-the-self items (COTS) and by allowing service members to order the gear they need online for their specific assignment. This is not theory since Militec as done just that for the past 10 years and have satisfied over 30,000 individual requests toalling over 750.000 bottles of different sizes . The USG can also create thousands of jobs and keep the manufacturing jobs here in the USA.
ARMY ARTICLE BELOW-- I never thought any one could be this Stupid and proves the Army's 3-in1 gun oil does not work properly, or weapons would not have to be cleaned EIGHT TIMES PER DAY!
ARMY ARTICLE BELOW-- I never thought any one could be this Stupid and proves the Army's 3-in1 gun oil does not work properly, or weapons would not have to be cleaned EIGHT TIMES PER DAY!
Army stands by official CLP products
By J.D. Leipold
May 19, 2006
May 19, 2006
WASHINGTON (Army News Service, May 19, 2006) – The Army Research, Development and Engineering Command wants to make it clear to all Soldiers that the only two approved CLPs (cleaners, lubricants, protectants) that should be used on a variety of weapons systems are Breakfree and Royal.
In a Pentagon press briefing, Maj. Gen. Roger A. Nadeau, RDECOM commander, reiterated that the Army has conducted a battery of tests that concluded the products under recommendation since 2003 were still vastly superior to others.
“When desert ops came up in 2003, the then-director was asked to take a look at the Army’s CLP to see if there was a lubricant with relaxed cleaning and preservation qualities that, in a desert-like environment, would be exceptional in performance to what the Army had at the present time,” Nadeau said.
So the Army took a closer look at its field requirements, and solicited samples from manufacturers for products aimed primarily at lubrication. The Army Test and Evaluation Command tested 21 samples received by manufacturers, as well as the two CLPs already approved at the time, under multiple categories of application and a wide variety of operating environments
“The tests were on four weapons systems covering handguns, rifles and machine guns… bottom line, end-state to the tests was that the superior performers in all categories turned out to be those products which were already approved by the Army,” Nadeau said.
Nadeau cautions Soldiers using unauthorized CLPs that the product may work fine on Monday and Tuesday but by the time Friday rolls around the Soldier might have created a scenario he or she didn’t see coming – “weapon failure, not on the range, but in a fire-fight.”
“We authorize products to Soldiers which have undergone rigorous testing, products we know that will work every time,” Nadeau stressed. “Soldiers don’t have to think about quality performance, the testing has been done ad nauseum and works across a spectrum of operating environments.”
While there are technical manuals and bulletins that tell Soldiers exactly how to use the authorized CLPs, the key to any weapon’s success is up to the individual Soldier’s training and dedication to weapon and cartridge cleaning.
“Even if the manual says you should clean your weapon twice a day, if you’ve got time, clean it four times a day, if you’ve got more time, clean it eight times a day because the one time you didn’t clean it may be the time it jams,” Nadeau said.
“Soldiers should know there are a lot of people behind the front lines who get paid to make sure the Soldiers on the frontlines get the best we can give them at every possible opportunity,” he pointed out.
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